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thanks i found the log file. interesting...it doesn't indicate any errors when parsing through the .material file:

>>>>>>>>>>>>>> OS3D editor log > Importing Ogre mesh file : underocean/Plane.mesh
C:\Users\superman\Documents/scol/Partition_LocalUsr/ - underocean/scene.material - C:\Users\superman\Documents\scol\Partition_LocalUsr\underocean\scene.material
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> OS3D editor log > Some files are missing in underocean/scene.material
C:\Users\superman\Documents/scol/Partition_LocalUsr/ - underocean/scene.material - C:\Users\superman\Documents\scol\Partition_LocalUsr\underocean\scene.material
C:\Users\superman\Documents/scol/Partition_LocalUsr/ - underocean/MyOcean2HLSL_Cg.hlsl - C:\Users\superman\Documents\scol\Partition_LocalUsr\underocean\myocean2hlsl_cg.hlsl
C:\Users\superman\Documents/scol/Partition_LocalUsr/ - underocean/Ocean2HLSL_Cg.frag - C:\Users\superman\Documents\scol\Partition_LocalUsr\underocean\ocean2hlsl_cg.frag
C:\Users\superman\Documents/scol/Partition_LocalUsr/ - underocean/waves2.dds - C:\Users\superman\Documents\scol\Partition_LocalUsr\underocean\waves2.dds
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> OS3D editor log > underocean/scene.material has been rewrited with found resources path.
C:\Users\superman\Documents/scol/Partition_LocalUsr/ - underocean/scene.material - C:\Users\superman\Documents\scol\Partition_LocalUsr\underocean\scene.material
C:\Users\superman\Documents/scol/Partition_LocalUsr/ - underocean/MyOcean2HLSL_Cg.hlsl - C:\Users\superman\Documents\scol\Partition_LocalUsr\underocean\myocean2hlsl_cg.hlsl
C:\Users\superman\Documents/scol/Partition_LocalUsr/ - underocean/Ocean2HLSL_Cg.frag - C:\Users\superman\Documents\scol\Partition_LocalUsr\underocean\ocean2hlsl_cg.frag
C:\Users\superman\Documents/scol/Partition_LocalUsr/ - underocean/waves2.dds - C:\Users\superman\Documents\scol\Partition_LocalUsr\underocean\waves2.dds
C:\Users\superman\Documents/scol/Partition_LocalUsr/ - underocean/waves2.dds - C:\Users\superman\Documents\scol\Partition_LocalUsr\underocean\waves2.dds
C:\Users\superman\Documents/scol/Partition_LocalUsr/ - underocean/MyOcean2HLSL_Cg.hlsl - C:\Users\superman\Documents\scol\Partition_LocalUsr\underocean\myocean2hlsl_cg.hlsl
C:\Users\superman\Documents/scol/Partition_LocalUsr/ - underocean/Ocean2HLSL_Cg.frag - C:\Users\superman\Documents\scol\Partition_LocalUsr\underocean\ocean2hlsl_cg.frag
C:\Users\superman\Documents/scol/Partition_LocalUsr/ - underocean/scene.material - C:\Users\superman\Documents\scol\Partition_LocalUsr\underocean\scene.material
Loading Material Script resources
C:\Users\superman\Documents/scol/Partition_LocalUsr/ - underocean/Plane.mesh - C:\Users\superman\Documents\scol\Partition_LocalUsr\underocean\plane.mesh

tried that and it didn't change anything....the warning that os3d couldn't find all the resources comes up upon import.  i inserted the examine plugit and hit the play button in the editor, but the mesh remained blank.

hell iri and everyone:

some .meshs and dependencies can be imported to os3d if they are in the  C:\Users\superman\Documents\scol\Partition_LocalUsr directory', but other .meshes with shader dependencies cannot. seems to be something going on with os3d and whether it can utilize certain shaders files.

shaders can be finicky, this is something i encountered with blink as well.  there are so many things that can go wrong between certain .cg, .hlsl, .glsl, .vert, .asm(no longer supported by ogre 1.8 so i won't work much with them, sadly) .frag, and other shader file types. and throw in a gpu (i'm working with a fairly good laptop, but a laptop all the same), and the monkey wrench can go flying all over the place. (i'll be interested to see how that phrase translates into french)

iri feel free to see if you can get the reversed ocean that i posted to the .zip on your machine if you feel like it. i haven't spent the time to find out where the bogeyman lies, could be os3d, gpu, or something completly mysterious....i'll convert as many of my shaders to .cg since cg doesn't care whether its dealing with opengl or directx. the reversed ocean example uses .hlsl. I'll convert it to .cg (just by altering a file extension and some code in the shader declarations for the related .material file) and then see what happens.

ah but the sun is out and i must plant some seeds.

got to attract some butterflies this summer....building virtual gardens may be in my future, perhaps i could find clients who would like to use garden configurators the same way as car configurators. perhaps virtual butterfly gardens?

fwiw i have seen all the video tutorials and have more or less given up on using blink since the latter is not longer supported by anyone and ongoing win os changes have been making it break down bit by bit. i'm converted to os3d now.

i think it's the best open source online 3d plugin on the planet, and iv'e been burned 3 times over the last ten years by investing time into proprietary and semi-proprietary 3d formats, i'm never going to do that again.

-h

i have posted the .mesh and dependency files to:

ifam.net/openspace/troubleshooting/underoceanresourceproblem/underoceanwithshaderfiles.zip

all the .mesh, material, texture, and other shader dependencies are in the .zip at the directory above; and i had all the files residing at

C:\Users\superman\Documents\scol\Partition_LocalUsr\underocean

ogre meshy and lexiview can find the depdencies of the .mesh file and render the vertex and pixel shaders (i.e. the .material file and other files), but openspace can't for some reason

the material is based on the one posted to http://www.ogre3d.org/tikiwiki/OceanFog … e=Cookbook

-h

thanks colleagues i'll look through the links and work through the video tutorials. looks like scol isn't much different than javascript although it appears frightening at first.
-h

ok

just an idea....once you have the api published and online, you could have the openspace editor to do the ancillary scol functions that I saw in that example, i.e. setting up the operating environment, etc, and then allow the author to use the scol language to hook into just the openspace portion of the scol api, i.e. a developer could set up sensors, functions, and code that could also interact with the code generated by the plug its.

i'd assume i would need to know the scol script api for openspace for that. all i really can do is a bit of javascript/vbscript coding....for handling multiple plugins in a web page, a bit of flash actioncript, discontinued adobe atmosphere atmoscript, and discontinued blink3d blinkscript.

alas. all those scripts of deadware!

thanks for your reply Nodrev. I am building a project where there is a collaboration server, and users' avatars are scuba divers with propulsion devices. when one gets to close to the kronosaurus, the user is booted out of the shared room and everyone sees a particle system of a cloud of blood in the water indicating that the diver got too close to the creature's mouth; it also triggers a new animation with the kronosaurus mesh of it thrashing around like a shark.

i'm doing this with blink 3d. to get it to work with openspace, i'll need to
1. set up a collaboration server of some kind (i don't know how to do that yet with openspace; i'd like to use this on my own server. blink3d uses opnefire, which is easy to set up)
2. have chat - looks like i'll have to read up on the tutorials a bit
3. have some shared objects (the users' avatars and perhaps the kronosaurus -same as 2
4, have an infinite plane (if possible)
5. buoyancy (can't do this in blink3d, and it doesn't look like openspace does that yet.)
6. ragdolls (can't do this in blink3d, and it doesn't look like openspace does that yet, although it looks like newton can do this, albeit with multiple meshes with balljoints.)
7. bone based physical models (can't do this in blink3d, and it doesn't look like openspace does that yet....from what i can see newton can't do this yet either)
8. use shaders (openspace seems to do this fine as far as i can tell)
9. parent particle systems to bones (i think openspace does this)

that's it in a nutshell

were you able to view them online without having to download the php file and dependencies?

-h