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#26 27-Sep-2012 20:33:13

iri
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Re: can't run an application

Is it up to us to do ? It would be highly questionable to automate this. We have no legitimacy to change ourself this parameter in an user. Moreover, in the case of local network (company, school, etc) with adminstrative rules ...

While the installation, once the files are copied and before  the "finished blah blahs", add a screen with few recommendations (this, the Scolring web site & forum, ...) can be an idea. What do you think ?

Further, when an app (i.e. Os3d by example) is unable to connect to a network address, then warn the user from the Voyager (with possibly a meesage about his firewall configuration) ?

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#27 27-Sep-2012 21:21:08

arkeon
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Re: can't run an application

if microsoft provide an API for this, is it because it's safe ? don't know... this is microsoft security...
http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library … s.85).aspx

if anybody can write a program that could change all the firewall rules, i have only one suggest... disable the ms firewall and install a third party software without any exposed Api ^^

however the majority of network software or games with networking add the needed rules on install.
It's not really a top priority problem since actually windows should ask about the firewall setting for scol once the setup finish.
but some parano choose to not enable it and forget about it.

let's warm the users on a FAQ somewhere wink

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#28 27-Sep-2012 23:17:28

iri
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Re: can't run an application

Ok, a lot of software do this, it's true.
In a free software, the user should choose himself. If his choice is bad for him (the app is unable to connect), this is his problem. He can read the FAQ or post a question here to resolve it. This option modify his configuration, independently of the Scol installation. For me, i will never include myself a such automatic option. I just give you my opinion but you can do this smile

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#29 2-Oct-2012 16:31:55

dhika11march
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Re: can't run an application

Hey All!!
There's a problem again,
I have been do the steps that I've posted, but "impossible start the applet" is appear again!
I dont know, my first project, that is name card can running, but planet AR can't run/impossible to start applet.
Why it can happen? whereas both project are can play well on the website. but now just one can play, that is planet.
thanks!

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#30 2-Oct-2012 16:36:18

dhika11march
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Re: can't run an application

Maybe now I must deleted the post that contain AR project that can run on the web, because all this time still error while playing and about the size of scol sad
if there's a nice solution of this problem, then I can rerun this project on my website..

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#31 2-Oct-2012 16:52:01

arkeon
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Re: can't run an application

really I don't understand what the problem could be hmm
if the Internet connection quality is bad for this computers, this is possible that the files are corrupted on download...

however for us with standard ADSL lines this works great ^^

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#32 2-Oct-2012 17:02:54

iri
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Re: can't run an application

Maybe the PlanetAR requires a specific Scol extension. If this Scol extension is not correctly loaded at the starting, the applet can not run.

Look at in the log file, what is the error message ?

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#33 10-Oct-2012 19:38:24

dhika11march
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Re: can't run an application

@iri: what do you mean specific Scol extension? for example?
by the way I have been tried the project at showcase, and there's no problem. I mean that there is no 'impossible to load applet' message appeared on screen.

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#34 10-Oct-2012 20:00:37

iri
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Re: can't run an application

1- Os3d is written in Scol.
2- AR requires some specific functions in Scol to works properly.
3- These functions are in a Scol extension (a file with the dll extension)
4- If this extension is not loaded, the application can not run.

You say that you (and we) can run this applet. But not yours friends.
Multiple reasons can produce this eror like a bad loading of an extension.
For that, you should give us a log file.

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#35 10-Oct-2012 20:03:31

arkeon
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Re: can't run an application

Actually the scol voyager do not start without the bitmapToolkit dll
so the available extensions should not be considered here.

I only see a network fault ^^

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#36 10-Oct-2012 20:36:00

dhika11march
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Re: can't run an application

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#37 11-Oct-2012 13:37:20

arkeon
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Re: can't run an application

Once again the files seems corrupted on missed on the server.
look at your ftp the directories are empty, the upload must have been failed.

maybe a bug in the os3D upload hmm
should be great to understand what happen here

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#38 19-Oct-2012 03:42:12

dhika11march
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Re: can't run an application

or this app required a WebGL?

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#39 19-Oct-2012 08:39:28

arkeon
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Re: can't run an application

No Scol / OpenSpace 3D do not use WebGL at all

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#40 19-Oct-2012 09:37:47

iri
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Re: can't run an application

Arkeon, can you send me the log file, i can not download it, please.

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#41 19-Oct-2012 11:47:45

iri
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Re: can't run an application

dhika11march wrote:

hI,
this is my web that has been reupload, http://artekom.com/artekomcard/web/

Hi,

"unable to start the applet".

So, if i read the description file of this applet (http://www.artekom.com/artekomcard/artekomcard.txt), i can not download the project file (http://www.artekom.com/artekomcard/fina … ard.xos.zp) called by the main function
Try this last url, you should go to the 404 error page (file not found).
Thus, without this file, the applet doesn't start.

Check your filesystem tree.

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