Scolring - Forum

ahh, i see

arkeon....is there a way to build and run scol on android atm? if it's too complicated for you to explain, in other words, if it's better for us to be testing it when it is a bit more ready to distribute, I understand.  i know this is alot of heavy lifting. (u.s. word for very hard work)

I'm so happy for the scol community! And you have developers doing a great job. Congratulations and thanks to them too.  (Maybe I'll finish a plugit or two by the fall)

Thx...when I'm done with the fk version of this I will sell it on http://cgcookiemarkets.com/blender/ and make it available for free to everyone who has joined this forum on the date that I put it for sale. 

Maybe I'll seek some input on the spline ik issue on http://blenderartists.org  but with so few bones and polys I doubt I can make it work. To stay under the 64 bone limit I can only put 6 bones in a tentacle since I need bones to manipulate the webbing and siphon.

oh man was rigging a headache, especially for the webbing between each tentacle.

i went down the rabbit hole with blender but managed to learn a few things.

i tried ik setups for a while, but i gave up. with hardware skinning on cheap gpu's (i'm thinking of a web audience which isn't filled with gamers,. so shader model 2 or shader model 3), you can only put 64 bones in a rig. so you cannot take advantage of things like spline ik, that appears to require more bones and vertices to work well (i tried...if anyone has a pointer, feel free to share) .

but this guy works with under 64 bones...i still have to normal map, lock the weight groups, and add swimming animations,  eye animations, and animating the siphon that the octopus uses to propel itself and otherwise move around.

around 3.2k polies, i will try to reduce that a bit since i am making the transition between bones one edge loop on average.  it isn't hyper realistic, but it's developed a bit.  to make this guy move like a real octopus, you need a lot more bones and polygons.

http://ifam.net/openspace/mascot2/web/index.html

anything that has a bunch of hanging tentacles is hard...i haven't figured out how to do weight painting with selection masks turned on, so i'm always moving my object around to get at that one annoying vertex... since it's moving around, if it doesn't have any really obvious artefacts it will make it past my quality control.

thanks when I know more about the models my kid wants I will see you before they fall under the classifications you discussed.

yes it must have been some type of data corruption, the animation plugit works fine, all is well. this is great, since the shader that this figure uses uses hardware skinning, and with bone scaling you can get morph-like effects and keep using the shader. (if you add vertex animations to a .mesh that uses this shader, it won't compile/render/i can't remember what, but it doesn't work)

perhaps some naughty electrons were to blame?

this uses spacekey down to start animation, and spacekey up to stop animation:

http://www.ifam.net/openspace/mascot/web/index.html

the s03 engine is somehow distorting the scale and/or size of a bone that I did not alter (I made sure of this by clearing the tranformation for all of the bones in the head except for the last one, to make the head inflate and deflate..

fwiw here is the .mesh and dependencies (there is no  copyright on it, it's all home made)
the paths in the .material file are set to Openspace3D/mascot, so unzip into the root folder if you are so inclined.

http://ifam.net/mediaoctopus3d/mascot.zip

I'll try that thx.

http://ifam.net/openspace/mascot/
it works for me an i'm on a firewalled network on a long distance bus...the network here doesn't allow me to ftp upload an .os3d web page and depency files via os3d, so i exported as a local web project and uploaded the folder with dreamweaver.

oh computers! wheels and levers are so much simpler.

yes, here....

in os3d, the front part of the head gets resized and distorted (i want to distort the head, but not the part indicated here...)

the head is not distorted this way in ogre meshy (or the ogre mesh viewer)

here is the os3d scene, press b to start animation, release b to stop it:
http://ifam.net/openspace/mascot/